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Boer War

Postby EvilTrev » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:40 pm

Has anybody tried playing 2nd Boer War to these rules yet?

Are there any good manufacturers for models for this?

At the moment I dont play Great War, but have been reading White Flag to Pretoria, and the similarities to WW1 look remarkable.

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Re: Boer War

Postby craigjwoodfield » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:06 pm

EvilTrev wrote:Has anybody tried playing 2nd Boer War to these rules yet?


Yep. It's still a work in progress, but is looking OK.

EvilTrev wrote:Are there any good manufacturers for models for this?


Foundry, though the ranges are very limited with regards to the Boers and colonial troops. You could raid the Perry Sudan range and get away with it, and Perry also have a very small Mafeking 1900 range.

EvilTrev wrote:At the moment I dont play Great War, but have been reading White Flag to Pretoria, and the similarities to WW1 look remarkable.
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Yes and no. It was war of two stages, with the first part featuring a number of engagements not unlike WW1. Certainly plenty of blind stupidity on the part of British commanders that needlessly cost lives. :roll:

The second stage was a guerilla war, perhaps best dealt with by the LotOW rules system. An do you mean "With the flag to Pretoria"?

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Re: Boer War

Postby EvilTrev » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:33 am

Yes, with not White. Think I was hoping thats what my opponents might fly. When you say work in progress, what exactly do you mean? Are you putting lists together, amending rules, or even officially playtesting something?

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Re: Boer War

Postby James Woodward » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:20 pm

Trev, you're taking the Pith with yet another period :D

Have you thought about Disposable Heroes; they have a free download on their site for the Spanish/French conflict in North Africa set in the 1920/30s which wouldn't be a million miles off for the Boer guerilla aspect. d
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Re: Boer War

Postby EvilTrev » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:41 pm

D, The second Boer War, is definitely not a geurilla affair. Good size armies, trenches, and big guns taken off ships and put on heavy gun carriages. Supplies towed around with steam engines. This sounds interesting, but for now my next forray looks to be in BP with the colonials I have in 15's (Zulu wars), and maybe 28mm Napoleonic.

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Re: Boer War

Postby Tommy » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:54 pm

EvilTrev wrote:D, The second Boer War, is definitely not a geurilla affair. Good size armies, trenches, and big guns taken off ships and put on heavy gun carriages. Supplies towed around with steam engines. This sounds interesting, but for now my next forray looks to be in BP with the colonials I have in 15's (Zulu wars), and maybe 28mm Napoleonic.

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Re: Boer War

Postby James Woodward » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:59 pm

Tommy wrote:
EvilTrev wrote:D, The second Boer War, is definitely not a geurilla affair. Good size armies, trenches, and big guns taken off ships and put on heavy gun carriages. Supplies towed around with steam engines. This sounds interesting, but for now my next forray looks to be in BP with the colonials I have in 15's (Zulu wars), and maybe 28mm Napoleonic.

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Not if it involves BP :evil:
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Re: Boer War

Postby Tommy » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:21 pm

Darren Woodward wrote:
Tommy wrote:
EvilTrev wrote:D, The second Boer War, is definitely not a geurilla affair. Good size armies, trenches, and big guns taken off ships and put on heavy gun carriages. Supplies towed around with steam engines. This sounds interesting, but for now my next forray looks to be in BP with the colonials I have in 15's (Zulu wars), and maybe 28mm Napoleonic.

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Not if it involves BP :evil:


I have Black Powder and Crusader Rank and File. Both look to give a good game but the amount of figures required for Black Powder is immense and I may as well play 28mm Warmaster.
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Re: Boer War

Postby James Woodward » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:24 pm

which is why i'm doing Lasalle 15mm Naps
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Re: Boer War

Postby Tommy » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:38 pm

Darren Woodward wrote:which is why i'm doing Lasalle 15mm Naps


If its not 28mm why bother :)

Not really intrested in collecting 15mm for anything but FoW, I will play 10mm Naps with the Warmaster Waterloo ruleset if your intrested as I have a force of British with a lot of Dutch and Belgiums. My 2010 project will be the Age of Reason, starting with a Loyalist force of Britsh.
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Re: Boer War

Postby John Grant » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:20 am

I thought BP was Baden Powell.
You know Boer War etc......... :oops:

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Re: Boer War

Postby Tommy » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:39 am

Nice John wrote:I thought BP was Baden Powell.
You know Boer War etc......... :oops:

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Ahh, I bet your right there John. Baden Powel it will be, not Black Powder.
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Re: Boer War

Postby bluewillow » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:15 am

Interested in doing the Australian contingents pre 1901 Craig, would like to get a sculpter to do the work (hard to find these days)


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try British Grenadier for AWI and use actual 1/20 strengths, some btns are 12 figs do able in 28mm

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Re: Boer War

Postby EvilTrev » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:18 am

Nice John wrote:I thought BP was Baden Powell.
You know Boer War etc......... :oops:

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DIB DIB DIB and all that - now theres a name for a set of rules!
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Re: Boer War

Postby craigjwoodfield » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:56 pm

EvilTrev wrote:When you say work in progress, what exactly do you mean? Are you putting lists together, amending rules, or even officially playtesting something?
Trev


It's not official. I'm putting some lists together and tinkering with the rules for my own interest. It may see print somewhere else. Depends on how much sense I can make of it!

EvilTrev wrote:D, The second Boer War, is definitely not a geurilla affair. Good size armies, trenches, and big guns taken off ships and put on heavy gun carriages.
Trev


The latter part of the war definitely was a guerrilla war, but there were plenty of relatively large scale actions in the early part.

bluewillow wrote:Interested in doing the Austrlian contingents pre 1901 Craig, would like to get a sculpter to do the work


That would be nice, particularly the Tasmanian Imperial Bushmen (from my own home state, and boasts 2 VCs from the War) but for now I'm sticking with existing models. Of course, once everyone recognises the genius inherent in my work I will undoubtedly get a contract for mega$$ and be able to commission some sculpts. Just like happened with Legion. :wink:

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Re: Boer War

Postby bluewillow » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:59 pm

That would be nice, particularly the Tasmanian Imperial Bushmen (from my own home state, and boasts 2 VCs from the War) but for now I'm sticking with existing models.


I think I have a sculpter who may be interested, just need to wait till the new contract starts!

Of course, once everyone recognises the genius inherent in my work I will undoubtedly get a contract for mega$$ and be able to commission some sculpts. Just like happened with Legion


that will be the day!!!!!

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Re: Boer War

Postby lowtardog » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:20 am

I used to game 2nd Boer war in 28mm a nice period the only problem I found trying to game it over company sized actions was that you simply dont have the table size especially with the boer tactics of sitting in sangars and taking aimed shots at long range until the Brits close then buggering off. To be honest if I did it again and wanted to do Colenso etc I would go for 10mm and use Battles for empire.

For 28mm Arc of Fire has a nice feel to it for 28mm. Attacks on block houses or smaller actions in the later war makes for interesting gaming in 28mm
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