Bob5BolshevicksList

[bluepixieevil]

I wasn't going to post this one up as I expected it to be one of the few Back of Beyond armies that would recieve an 'official' model, either in Over the Top or in one of the other proposed supplements. With the removal of Rob Broom, and being a cynic, I do not believe that we are likely to see the release of new WAB or related material, unless stuff is almost already finished. Either way, with this being bottom of Forgeworld's priority lists, we will probably have to wait until Hell freezees over for even this. I suspect then, that 'unofficial' player offered lists will increasingly become the norm.

As with the previous Back of Beyond lists I add the Disclaimer that these lists are simply conversions of the Bob army lists to GW rules, to allow us to use our Bob armies with these rules: the list makes no pretence to be a font of additional wisdom and historical insight.

[janner]

Thanks for sharing your list - looks interesting.

As an aside, the Staff Officer is a pretty potent addition particular to the Imperial German Army lists - what is the background to you allowing a civil war Russian army this advantage, especially given its power when used in combination with the Commissar?

Also. lists normally allow cavalry to be bought by the troop as well as squadron - would you consider this for your list?

Regards,

[bluepixieevil]

As I say, the Back of Beyond lists I've posted (5 in all) are simply conversions of the Back of beyond lists, which in this case actually includes a staff officer in the original list. The back of beyond Bolsheviks are described in the original lists (by Chris Peers) as of slightly higher standard than normal Russian troops, simply due to the fact that by the time they' ve received their postings to the obscure corner of the world they re stationed in, most of those troops who want to desert have already had ample chance to do so... those left will thus be disproportionately of slightly higher quality. The Bolshevick command radius is a pretty poor 8", and the staff officer only boosts this to the 12" standard for some other armies.

In the back of beyond milueau the Bolsheviks are prebably the most regular army (unless someone is using british...which none of my group are)and are allowed a staff officer; the nearest regular competitors are Warlord Chinese (my own army). I came up with the conversion stats fairly easily as Back of beyond is a supplement for Contemptable Little Armies- a set of WW1 rules. By cross referencing eg CLA British stats with GW British stats, and then comparing them with CLA Chinese Warlord stats, I was able to come up with GW stats for Warlord Chinese. Similarly with russians. The scale in Back of Beyond is probably smaller than a WW1 or CW game, and I suppose the Staff Officer simply represents an actual professional army officer rather than an Apparatchick or Bloody Handed Brute ( a characteristic owned by many Back of beyond military leaders).

For our games we'll be keeping the cavalry squadrons for Bolshevicks and Chinese; it simply helps to differentiate them from the more irregular forces who do indeed purchase them by troop. Having said that these lists are really only intended for the group of half dozen players I meet with to play these GW rules with our existing Bob armies. If you want to interpret how to convert the Bob lists differently go for it- I did have to make certain judgements and choices in the conversion process, and I could have chosen differently, so my conclusions are hardly definative.

[tanz]

Thanks for the list, i've been working on one myself and come to find i look at yours and its very similar. Perchance do you have one for the white russians?

[bluepixieevil]

There are 5 if you trawl back through the Forum: Bolshevick, Warlord Chinese, Dino Hunters, Chinghai Frontier Army and Central Asian Bandits (the 5 armies possessed/ under construction by our group. I was going to do a Mad Baron one as I'm sure someone will be tempted, and White Russians are too, but I was going to do them 'as needed'. If you do them and post them we'll probably just pinch them...

[bluepixieevil]

just played a game against my Bolshevik opponent and noticed an error ith his lists: I had set initiative for several troop types at I: 2, when it should have been I: 3. The only I: 2 Russkies are the basic L: 5 conscripts.