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Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Verythrax » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:51 pm

Just got this FW email:

Hi there,
Today we are excited to announce that the first of several new Warhammer Historical rules sets is available to pre-order – Kampfgruppe Normandy. We also have a detailed WWII German decal sheet to accompany this lavish book, both of which will be on sale in limited numbers at Salute 2011 on 16th April.

Kampfgruppe Normandy available to pre-order now
Written by Warwick Kinrade, Kampfgruppe Normandy is a huge 348 page, full colour, large format, hardback book containing rules for playing miniature wargames set in Normandy during the summer of 1944.

Kampfgruppe Normandy is a completely new games system that includes detailed rules for such aspects of warfare as: command and control, suppressing fire with small arms and high-explosives, direct and indirect fire, aircraft attacks and anti-aircraft fire. It also includes a unique battle group morale system to determine the victor in each battle. The rules can be played using any 1/72 scale (20mm) WWII plastic, metal and resin infantry, vehicles and terrain kits.

As you can see from these page spreads, Kampfgruppe Normandy includes over 100 photographs taken during the war by those who were there, many rarely seen before. The book contains eight army lists from which players can build combined-arms battle groups: four Allied lists, for both British and American Armoured and Infantry divisions and four German lists, covering both SS and Wehrmacht Panzer divisions, and Werhmacht Infantry and Fallschirmjäger divisions.

It also contains two mini-campaigns set in the British and American sectors of Normandy which provide extensive background information, scenarios and equipment data as well as full-colour uniform guides for German, American and British forces.

Kampfgruppe Normandy is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 26th April, but before this it will also be exclusively available in limited numbers at Salute, which is held at London’s ExCel Centre on 16th April.

WWII German Decal Sheet available to pre-order now
Released alongside Kampfgruppe Normandy is this detailed German decal sheet, designed by Forge World’s Paul Rudge.

germandecalPacked with over 1,200 individual decals, this sheet provides national insignia, vehicle numbers and divisional insignia for the 1st, 2nd, 9th and 12th SS Panzer Divisions.

The vehicle numbers on the sheet, designed for use with 1/72 (20mm) models, can both be used straight away in the designations supplied, or combined together to allow further unit numbers to be created for specific vehicles. The sheet has been designed with the wargamer in mind, and allows multiple vehicles from the same unit to be easily detailed.

This decal sheet can now be pre-ordered for despatch in the week commencing 26th April. Along with Kampfgruppe Normandy, the German decal sheet will be available in limited numbers at Salute 2011 in advance of this shipping date.

More Warhammer Historical publications coming soon
Kampfgruppe Normandy is the first of several exciting supplements and rulebooks scheduled for release over the next few months. Keep an eye on the Warhammer Historical website and future newsletters for more details.


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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Duc Jehan » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:18 pm

Verythrax wrote:Excited?


not really
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby stuartmcc » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:30 pm

£50!
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Verythrax » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:34 pm

stuartmcc wrote:£50!


Thought the same, but it's a 350 pg hardback... but I'm not a fan of 20mm, really... I was expecting WH to delivery a good 28mm experience... but maybe the rules are flexible enough for that.
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby stuartmcc » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:01 pm

350 pages; that makes it even worse.
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Guy » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:13 pm

Oh well...time to blag a review copy... if I can...

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby rassilon » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:30 pm

One word: CRAZY! :roll:
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby aecurtis » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:50 pm

"...Wehrmacht Panzer divisions, and Werhmacht..."

Only need "Whermacht" for the trifecta.

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Axebreaker » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:35 pm

Verythrax wrote:
stuartmcc wrote:£50!


Thought the same, but it's a 350 pg hardback... but I'm not a fan of 20mm, really... I was expecting WH to delivery a good 28mm experience... but maybe the rules are flexible enough for that.


I have little doubt you can play this at 28mm. :wink:

I do admit I prefer my core rules in hardback with clear rules, diagrams and plenty of eye candy, but I need to think this over as 48.00pounds isn't chump change and just because it's big doesn't mean it's good(ie Foundry Nap book). I do like WWII quite a bit, but I think I might wait for some reviews before any rush buys. Also, I'm already playing a system Disposable Heroes which rules wise is very nice and easy to play which also helps keep the impulse buy down a bit on this. :)

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby andy » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:44 pm

Ouch £48 - not exactly a steal - and of course you know the level of support you are buying for this £48!
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby aecurtis » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:50 pm

Look at just one preview page, page 265. If you're being asked to spend this much on a set of rules, wouldn't you expect the author to know enough to correctly indicate:

- the composition of a US tank company

- the number of tanks in the subunits of a US tank company

- when the 76mm Sherman first entered combat

Yes, if I were to don my uniform again, I would still be wearing the 33d Armor crest. So I take that one personally. But if paying this price, a certian level of knowledge ought to be expected.

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Verythrax » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:53 pm

andy wrote:and of course you know the level of support you are buying for this £48!


This is my only gripe against it right now... :roll:

I think I'll wait of the releases in the "next few months" before investing on WH again (like 2 or 3 months - more that that is not "few" anymore). If it's proved true, I'll finally get a start on WW2 wargaming ;)
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Axebreaker » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:06 pm

and of course you know the level of support you are buying for this £48!


Yep, just noticed the bit about further supplements........wouldn't hold my breath.

But if paying this price, a certian level of knowledge ought to be expected.


True.

This game could take off in Germany as they really love anything 1/72nd.(I prefer 28mm)

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Waaslandwarrior » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:46 pm

Duc Jehan wrote:
Verythrax wrote:Excited?


not really


Neither do I.

WW2 is one of the very few periods I do not game.

OK, back to Successors then.
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby janner » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:04 pm

aecurtis wrote:Look at just one preview page, page 265. If you're being asked to spend this much on a set of rules, wouldn't you expect the author to know enough to correctly indicate:

- the composition of a US tank company

- the number of tanks in the subunits of a US tank company

- when the 76mm Sherman first entered combat

Yes, if I were to don my uniform again, I would still be wearing the 33d Armor crest. So I take that one personally. But if paying this price, a certian level of knowledge ought to be expected.

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QFT :)

and it's not exactly that there are a shed load of sources to cover this period
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby scrivs » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:30 pm

£48.00 they can coco!

Allen - is it 2 in the HQ and three platoons of 5 :)

BTW the page spreads now only show the front & back covers.
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Mark B » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:49 pm

Yawn! :roll:

Why have they actually made this? Was there a market for it? Is anyone actually going to buy them?

Seriously? I thought FOW had cornered the WW2 converts from 40K a long time ago...?

Oh well!

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby aecurtis » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:28 pm

scrivs wrote:Allen - is it 2 in the HQ and three platoons of 5 :)

BTW the page spreads now only show the front & back covers.


Exactly, Scrivs: A US Army tank company was seventeen tanks, broken down just like that (and no "squadrons") until the M1 Abrams was adopted. First combat use of the 76mm Sherman was July 27th, 1944--by the 33d Armor.

Just "turn" the lower right corner of the front cover and flip the pages.

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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby varangian » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:35 am

Keeping in-line, and using WW11 American jargon, this is a Cluster Fxxk by GW/FW.

I would like to use some of the words by Major General Freyberg VC, prior to the evacuation of Crete in May 1941, "In my opinion the limit of endurance has been reached by the wargamers who trusted GW to support WAB 2...our position here is hopeless."
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Re: Kampfgruppe Normandy

Postby Pijlie » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:42 am

Well, I for one am glad that FW/GW has filled this long-enduring gap in the wargaming market and finally produced a 20mm WW2 set instead of another supplement to WAB, Great War, LOTOW or Trafalgar. Such a unique work may be worth the 48 GBP since (be honest) where else would you be able to buy such a ruleset? I mean; WW2. Who would have thought of that?

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